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Inspiration and Community with Ingrid Christiansen - From weighing 300 pounds to endurance runner and with a 850+ days running streak

Kevin Chang, Bertrand Newson, Ingrid Christiansen Episode 90

#90 - In this episode, we're thrilled to welcome Ingrid Christiansen to the show.  

Ingrid is an inspiring member of the RaceMob and Too Legit family.

It wasn't that long ago. In fact, it was 2019 that Ingrid weighed over 300 pounds, but she managed to take the first step in her fitness journey and joined a local kickboxing gym that fresh start fueled a transformation and helped her find her way into endurance sports. Now 150 pounds lighter and with a running streak approaching 900 days. 

Ingrid is inspiring change and motivating others. Plus on race day, you'll actually see her running back out onto the course to support her teammates. This is a fun and inspiring episode that you won't want to miss.

It was embarrassing because the coach at the time, my first class I'll remember this, she's like, well, you can do pushups on the wall. And so, I mean, I, I couldn't really do anything. And you know, it was really hard to go back and keep going. I was just, you know, it was really, really hard, but, you know, I just, I, I found a strain to do it and I kicked boxed for probably a good six months. And I dropped the first a hundred pounds doing that. It kind of slowly went from one thing to another, to be honest with you, it was like, okay, lost the first a hundred pounds. But then I started thinking about the food that I'm putting in my mouth. Hello, and welcome to the RaceMob podcast. where we're all about running long, having fun and making the human connection. I'm Kevin entrepreneur technology and fitness nerd, and I'm joined by the head coach of RaceMob and master motivator at the incomparable Ber In today's episode, we're thrilled to welcome Ingrid Christiansen to the show. Ingrid is an inspiring member of the RaceMob bark and to legit family. It wasn't that long ago, in fact, it was 2019 that Ingrid weighed over 300 pounds, but she managed to take the first step in her fitness journey and joined a local kickboxing gym that fresh start fueled a transformation and helped her find her way into endurance sports. Now 150 pounds lighter and with a running streak approaching 900 days, Ingrid is inspiring change and motivating others. Plus on race day, you'll actually see her running back out onto the course to support her teammates. This is a fun and inspiring episode that you won't want to miss. All the shows can be found online at RaceMob.com/podcast. And without further do you, here's our episode. Hello, RaceMob family. We are here to celebrate a wonderful journey. A story of Ingrid Christensen. One of our athletes who has gone on a remarkable journey of weight loss, discovering her love of fitness, cardio that has taken her all the way up to the marathon journey and over 150 pounds lost and counting. Welcome, ingrid. Thank you. Thank you so much for having me today. Yeah, this is so many months. So, so happy that we could finally jump on the podcast. I know the long layoff that we took definitely didn't help the situation, but I think it helped us get to know you even more and really be able to both dive into your origin story and, and know where you're going. So, Ingrid, talk to us a little bit about where you were and how you found fitness. Okay, well pretty much, you know, most of my life I've been pretty overweight. I'd say probably about 10 years ago is probably the heaviest. I was I had some personal life situations that happened with a divorce and you know, really got bad and I wasn't really taking care of myself, I wasn't exercising. And I had ballooned up to like 320 pounds and I just wasn't, I wasn't eating well. I wasn't happy. It was just some, some really tough times. And it took me some, you know Several times where I tried to start and then I'd stop and then I'd try. And it was... It didn't happen overnight. Although there were certain things that finally happened that you finally get to a point where you're like, okay, this is vodka Boler this, this is something you needs to change. And it took a long time to get there, but it finally did around I'd say it was like may of 2019. What happened was I was actually going on a trip to Hawaii on a plane and I've always been nervous about planes cause I was a pretty heavy person, but it got to a point where I got on a plane and a seatbelt didn't fit. And I was just, I was mortified. I was like, this, this, this is one of the things that just clicked in my mind that something has to change like. There's been, like I said, many times where I tried and stopped, I did good. And it just finally the embarrassment, even though probably people weren't really even looking at me, but to me, I felt like the whole plane was looking at me like, like Ingrid, you gotta get it together. You know? And it was enough was enough. And so that was one of 'em. And also I had a family member who got ill, my father and watching him be very obese and not taking care of himself. I think it was a mixture of both where it just finally. I had to do something. So yeah, around May, 2019, I started with kickboxing actually. And you know, that's a whole journey. That's what started it all kicked it all off. I love kickboxing in San Jose. I remember the day I walked in for kickboxing it was so intimidating, you know, was very heavy over 300 pounds and everybody's doing pushups and, you know, kickboxing and I can't even like hardly walk around a block at this point, you know? It was embarrassing because the coach at the time, my first class I'll remember this, she's like, well, you can do pushups on the wall. And so, I mean, I, I couldn't really do anything. And you know, it was really hard to go back and keep going. I was just, you know, it was really, really hard, but, you know, I just, I, I found a strain to do it and I kicked boxed for probably a good six months. And I dropped the first a hundred pounds doing that. Kickboxing and you know, it kind of slowly went from one thing to another, to be honest with you, it was like, okay, lost the first a hundred pounds. But then I started thinking about the food that I'm putting in my mouth. Like, okay, I, I can't drink soda anymore, eat pizza. Why am I doing that? It's kind of like, you know, and so it led me to weight Watchers. I had signed up for weight Watchers and I also took some nutrition classes and it was You know, I just started really thinking about what I was eating and like how it wasn't really helping me. And then losing the weight too, at the same time, it was sort of my motivation, like, wow. You know, I could go into a store and actually buy clothes are in that, you know, in the, the big woman's section you know, that there's anything wrong that it's just like, I wanted to change, you know? Yeah. So I, I did that. I went to weight Watchers. And then probably I think it was January just before COVID hit. I was in a kickboxing class and we were doing some running and it got to a point where the instructor wanted me to run around the perimeter of the studio and I couldn't do it. I had to sit in the corner and she told me that I was a terrible runner and about me, you like tell me I'm not good at something. Yeah, that's not good. gonna prove you wrong. Right. So that's when my whole thought process of running came in was like, I'm just gonna let this instructor tell me that. So, you know, I started doing some running here and there. I went to the Campbell track. I couldn't even really run. I just was going from like one pole to the next. And I was just gonna show this instructor, you know, that, you know, I'm gonna be able to do this. I'm gonna be able to run it. It wasn't. At the time thinking of, you know, running a 5k or running marathon, just to be able to run around the track, you know, and over time I just pushed myself. And then you know in March I actually did my first like personal 5k at the track. I think it took me like 50 minutes or something, 55, 0 minutes, but I just felt. It was a moment where I was able to do the whole thing and not stop. It's like, my feet felt like Fred Flintstone, you know, it was like, oh my God, I'm moving, I'm moving, you I'm like, this is cool. And then from there, honestly, I've run every day. since that moment, it just kind of spun from there. Which is incredible. And, and I think, you know, we definitely will wanna get into the streak, the incredible streak, you know, kind of your goals, your, your future goals. But I do want to dive into, you know, those early moments. You know, why kickboxing and, and which studio and you know, what advice would you give to your, your younger self you know, for those, those early classes? You know, I've always liked kickboxing. I like the idea of, I don't know, hitting the bag and having the gloves is something I always liked. When I was much younger before I had my son, I did a little kickboxing. I don't know. It's always appealed to me. And the, I love kickboxing studio is literally down the street for my house and they had a special a group on. And that's what led me there. And then I started you know, I guess the community, like starting to have a community I've never really had a fitness community before, so starting to develop that. And I, I think you know, advice to my younger self was, would be like you know, you can, you can do anything if you print your mind to it. Cuz there was a couple times where I was like, I don't know, you know, it was, it was difficult because it took me a while to be able to do a normal burpee. You know, I had to do like assisted ones from the bag, or be able to do a warmup without feeling like I'm gonna die. You know, things like that. It, it, it, wasn't easy. You know, I felt embarrassed, you know, I'm sitting there and I'm, I'm really heavy and everybody's jumping up and down. And every time I jump 'em and down, I don't look like all these other people. Right. So it, it was hard to, to keep going, moving forward with that. Well, I mean, I think great advice. You know, I think one thing that we tell our athletes all the time is Put something on your calendar, sign up for something it's less daunting than, you know, Hey, I'm gonna go do three miles or five miles. If you've not done any fitness it's Hey, I'm gonna put on my shoes. Right? What's that next thing? Or I'm gonna just get out my driveway fitness classes, I think are just. So fantastic. In that regard, you know, I did a lot of different fitness classes through class pass and it was just the, that matter of, okay, I've signed up, I've signed up for class. Now I've gotta go right now that I've signed up. So that mental hurdle of just like doing one thing. It was a little bit at a time, you know, one step at a time. And, and you do start to build this community. When you go to these fitness classes, you just start to meet people, say, hi. I mean, people are, are very friendly. And I think that's just another, you know, huge motivating factor as well. And I, and I think the other thing that you mentioned, which I just like to highlight is, you know, not comparing yourself with other people. Even not comparing yourself with, you know, a former version of yourself. Right. It's Hey, what can I do today? Where am I at today? And what can I do tomorrow? And, and putting that goal ahead of you. So, I mean, I just think just kudos all around to, to that journey and just a great reminder to all of us you know, me, especially who's fallen off the wagon a little bit, that, that we can get back there. we can get back there. keep going. You know what I mean? The only way that you fail is to stop you. You know what I mean? Even if you take a break. Keep going. It the the last time we all three saw each other in person was at a race earlier this month, which was pretty cool as we had our own Ingrid running you in K.C. Right. Yes. absolutely. So good stuff, good stuff. Going full circle, paying it for which we can talk more about later in our conversation. Yes. Absolutely. And I think, you know, what struck me at this race particular was how you are. A heart and soul of this community as well, this running community, the two legit community going back out on the course, running new, new people in, you know, everybody saying hi to you and, and just the, the wonderful personality, the, the, the, yeah, the wonderful person that you are. I mean, I think it just speaks volume. So I do wanna get into, okay. 5k, you've done a 5k. You did it around the track about 50 minutes. And that led into a streak. Is that, Is that, Yeah, it was like, I was like, I did a 5k, so I don't know at the time I was like, I'm gonna do 5k every day. Wow. that's Um, But ended up so it was affecting that I did for like the first, like maybe three or four days, but then you know, kind of got, you know, running around the track can only go for so long. So I thought, well, let me try, starting to run longer, like from my house since we were in COVID. We couldn't really go to the gym. I started running like a route around my house and doing like virtual stuff. I thought, okay, well, I did this 5k on the track. Let's try doing a 10 K and I did this like virtual 10 K on Los Gatas Creek trail. And it was like a fundraiser. And that's where I met coach Vanessa. And that's where that's where initially where I really started getting serious about. Did you meet her on the course? Well, she was hosting it and well I turned in my time and I asked her, I'm like, you coach you running coach. And she said, yeah. And then one thing led to another and I started going to her studio and I was like, can you, you know, I wanna, I wanna you know, like have some kind of training, can you help me? And then she. Started working with me and she coached me in my first half marathon. So we worked together for a little while. Yeah. So that it was Sam, Miguel. It was, I think it was February of 20, 21, I believe. But we, yeah, we worked together. We we'd run and she gave me a lot of wonderful advice. And that's far, I started building a longer distances, you know, past the 10 K and, and from. But my first half marathon experience was wonderful cuz you know, it's their first experience. So whatever you get PR I had thought, okay, I'll, I'll get, I'll get like a two 30 time. It ended up getting like a suck, like two 17, I think, or like that. I don't know what it was, maybe two 20, but it was just a lot better than I thought I can do. And then I just got addicted from there. I dunno how to explain it. It just went crazy right from there. Ingrid. Where was the race? Oh, Sam, Miguel. I was at the, at the it's a military base out there. Were, were there any tidbits, anything that you took away from some of that training with Vanessa early on? Anything that stuck, stuck, with you? Yeah. I think a lot of like working on my stride and picking up my feet and I really appreciated how wonderful and honest she was with me and, and the encouragement, you know? She knew my story and you know, she was really encouraging and, and like You know, I think a lot of my, some of the breathing just, and learning about running and, and how cuz you know, shoes, you know, the little things, your stride, like all these, you know, you think you just put on shoes and you went out the door is quite that way and yeah, she taught me about Nike shoes. Well, we sh we know she has quite the collection. That's right. know, we know she's gonna listen to this and laugh. Yes. So I mean, just learning about right Popper's shoes and getting fitted and you know, she just really was a great mentor in the beginning for me. And I I'm always gonna really appreciate that. And she, and we have to thank her, send her a shoutout because she did refer you to us, you know? Yeah. That's so and now we know she's, she has since relocated to Texas and we wish her all the best. But many thanks to coach Vanessa for the referral. Yes for sure. Yeah. You know, after I met Vanessa is where I started, where I also around the same time I did the half marathons where I kind of ran into the bay one crew too, where I ran into Luke, who also was another person that was really that whole group has been a real part of my journey as well. And Luke also referred me to coach as well. Thank you, Luke. Thank you. Bear your own. Well, let's dive into your running. You know, so half marathon Sam, Miguel looks like it went pretty well through the training. Which is fantastic. And, and where did you go from there? I did it like from there I got addicted to trying to hit that sub to our Wow. Okay. So from there, I think I ran, honestly, I think I ran four or five marathons. I did, I did a half, another half marathon with Vanessa in Vegas. I did a few more of. It was harder because it was still COVID. It wasn't really a lot of local races. So there was a few, I did like one, I believe in Santa Monica, I did a couple others and then I did one in June. I think June of last year in long beach where I finally, I got a sub two, I got a 1 59 59. So I was like, yes. And so from there I decided I'm gonna go for the marathon and around the same time, a little bit later, I think it was like so I started training with Vanessa and then, then moved over, started working with coach and yeah, it went to the marathon, the first marathon from there. Wow. Wow. Wow. And what kind of training do you think helped you the most in getting from, you know, two 17 down to under two and half. I think for me, it was like, it was a goal was I I've come this far. Like I can do this. I think I've learned most in my journey is that if you really believe you can do something, you can do it. Like it's, it's empowering. And then you like create a great community of people who believe in you who are a part of, you know, Your goals and you can talk to about your goals. I think that's just, it's the hugest thing. Like, this is what I wanna do. And some days were so hard and I was just really determined, like, wow. And it's just so cool to be in these races and, and you you know, you meet all these people, you know, when you're at a race and you get to see these extraordinary athletes and it was just so motivating for me. Ingrid in some of those. As of those half marathons, what were some of the biggest lessons you learned in regards to when things didn't always go as planned. I think for sure was making sure that, you know, hydrate, you get so caught up. You know, also the taping is the first couple of marathons. I really didn't. I just van right up to it and had, you know, learning to, you gotta take it easy before, you know, making sure that you eat really good and your nutrition. I mean, nutrition going back to the weight Watchers and going back to some of the classes that I've taken, I really learned To really eat well before races, you know, really think about what's gonna help me and that for sure, but you know, the first few marathons, the hydration was not something that I was really paying attention to. And I think that was really key in helping me get a little faster, which, you know, make sure to hydrate before endearing and take advantage of that and and eat well and sleep well too. That's really, important. If you like our podcast and sign up for our newsletter, where we give you weekly tips on how to run your best race and have fun in the process, just go to RaceMob.com and sign up today. I mean, talk to us a little bit about your current hydration strategy and current nutrition strategy. What, what is working for you these days? For me personally, I'm a big scratch fan. That's been my hydration. I, I, I've been kind of changing up. I don't have a hundred percent what I'm using, but I'm using like the Solomon and with the, the bottles I had the bladder for a little bit, but definitely that and the gels have worked really well. Sometimes I'll take like grapes and things like that with me, some of the sugar, more of the regular sugar items. So I'm still, I don't know if it's just me file runners, but I'm still trying to figure it out a hundred percent, but I gotta, I gotta put nail down. And, and it's, I think the key is remembering to still take in your nutrition, even when you get further into the race, because you get that fatigue, right. And you're like, oh, I'm dying and you don't take. That nutrition, you know, at mile 10 or mile 20, whatever it is. And that's when you, and, and that's, that's the big thing I've been learning about. And I think that's, that's really important. Yeah. Yeah. Especially in those longer races, it, it takes a little. Catch up to you. And so, yeah, that makes, that makes a ton of sense. makes a ton of sense. And how was that very first marathon journey, the location of that, and that day overall, remember the anticipation. We had some conversations leading up to. You had friends who actually came on course for you as well. So take our listeners through that personal journey. I don't know. It's almost like a dream sometimes. It's I think it's like one of the, one of the better days of my life to be quite honest. I think for me at that point in my head was like, oh my gosh, you know, I had gotten down, I was down 150 pounds. Here I am, I'm gonna, I'm gonna run a marathon. Oh man. I couldn't even walk around the block two years prior, like. Just is amazing, you know, and it's the first time in my life that I've made it that far, you know, because there's so many struggles of start and stop. Okay. I mentioned before and just believing in myself and it really helped me get into a better place just in my personal life. And, and just the whole day itself was, you know, coach preparing me you know, I was really nervous, but I felt like, you know, it because it was my first marathon and I had come so far, I just had. It's just natural high. Like I'm gonna do this. Like, and I felt that way, the whole race, I, most of the race I smiled. I don't know if I could say that about marathons. I've done since, but... And you know, what was really awesome is I knew coach was gonna be at the end cuz I said, coach. I don't really have a lot of family that, I mean, I know it's gonna have some friends, but, you know, will you be there at the end? He's like, I'm gonna be there. So I think that made it really special. And I, and I, I really appreciate that and I think that's gonna stick with me for life. I mean, it was just a really, really cool thing. And, you know, it was, it was tough. I did pretty well until about mile 20 and then coming up and it got warm. It was a warm day. It was very smoky. It was, we were having all those fire. And mile 20 was tough. And I, I had this in my head. I was gonna do under four 30. I just, it was no stopping me. And I was hurting coming back up during the end and it was really tough, but I, I tucked it out. A friend of mine was on his bike and he was saying some things to me as we were going up to the end, like making, keeping me going, you know, and just, you can do this, you didn't do this. So what was a good friend of mine met me there and then. As they got closer, I think it was like mile 25 and come out the Creek. And there's all the two legit family waiting that was super special. I felt like the last mile was like a dream. Like it was just really a wonderful, happy moment. And you know, I just remember singing Jingle Bells. Sorry wash. Anyways, and it was just like, I'm gonna do this. I'm actually gonna do this. And then I see coach and there's this picture of us where we're he's got his hand out behind him. And I think, you know, and it was like he was there. And then before you knew it, I was over the finish line and I had some friends that were there, but that going over that finish line, the smile on my face, I, and not have this pose where I'm like, you know, superwoman, it was amazing. And you know, it was all worth it. There were some days that were tough. Leading up to it, the training, you know, running my first long mileage, you know, 1820, you know, it was tough. There were some days where like, I'm like I had to walk a little bit when I was training. Like, I don't wanna walk when I do the marathon. Right. But something special about race day, you get that extra, you know, adrenaline going and, and you just have this it's and the people and the energy, it just that day was just really awesome. And I hit it. I was like 4 26 and I was like, this is, Ugh, I couldn't even cry because I was just so happy. It was so it was so awesome. When is the movie coming out? When is the book coming out? I mean, that story again, we're not, we're talking yeah, two years. I want everyone to, to understand that you may know somebody, this could be you right now. Your story could be Ingrid's story. You can feel the walls closing in. You may not feel that you have that inner. That resides in you, but if you can put together some consistency with some tangible goals and realize that if Ingrid can did and is doing you can and will, and there's a community out there that can help you. What you need to do is to believe in yourself and to take that first step, you know, to get to that first class. many, small steps. You know, and there will be days that it may be tough, but here we are 150 pound slider approaching the fifth or sixth marathon. We can talk about the big Sur marathon as well, 800 plus days of consecutive running of at least one mile or longer. And inspiring so many people Ingrid. In the process, Kevin and myself as well. So this is a perfect platform for you to share your story because there are so many people that, especially in the midst of the pandemic coming out of the pandemic have put on some weight who are dealing with anxiety that are dealing with self-esteem and confidence issues that are navigating stress and pressure and how getting out and being active, doing something for yourself and meeting people in the process can help pull you out where you can expand your circle of friends, gain greater confidence. Seeing fitter healthier version of yourself and where your friends and families see that change and it inspires others just by you doing that same thing, getting up, getting out, getting active and yielding the results in the process. So fantastic. Really. Yeah, I think really inspiring others really keeps me going, if that makes any sense. Like, I feel like when I share, cuz I, you know I like to try to be humble, but you know, I think, you know, sharing. And if somebody out there, they need to hear it. That makes me feel good. That means. You know, that helps me move forward. You know, and surrounding myself with like-minded folks and, and there's such a good community of people. Like I said, I didn't, but we have a lot of families. So I feel like I have this huge family now it's the best thing ever. I love it. You know, and I get to talk to people's. I, I used to be really shy too, when I be, you know, when I was heavy, like in the beginning of my story, I really didn't go anywhere. I mean, I just was kind of more of an introvert and. Definitely changing. I mean, I'm still an introvert, but in terms of like talking to people and feeling more confident in, you know, speaking about my story and, and coming on a podcast if you would've asked me to do that three years ago, I've been like, no way , but you know, here I am, and that's all part of it. You know, it's, it's running fitness, but also like improving, you know, your, your life, you know, and living your best life. And that's all part of. Well, the story is great and the person is even better. I mean, I think, you know, not only when we were at the, the race this last couple weekends ago, you know, you were running people in and people genuinely just love being around you, your upbeat personality. And I think, you know, the Too Legit family in and of itself. You know, not only there on race day, not only hanging out afterwards and cheering each other onto the finish line and, and bringing them in, but also just hanging out even after the race was done. You know, in the, in the post race specificities and, you know, I think going to breakfast and, and all of that, and it is really just an extended family an extended community, which fantastic. I'm so thankful for that every day. Thank you, coach. It's it's been, it's been wonderful. It's one of the best bustling, you know, just being part of community, being too legit bay area run crew, just the, all the D. You know, people that I've met and it's just been so awesome. I mean, I can't even, it's like, it's not something you could ever like spend any money on it's priceless and it's wonderful. I don't know. It just really warms my heart thinking about it, you know, it's, it's just awesome. And it makes me like, even want to, you know, talk to more people. It's just, I don't know, pretty soon people are gonna be like, shut up. Never never, Never never And everything Ingrid that running has given you running fitness, staying active you're paying it back as well. I mean your love... Let's see, maybe talk a little bit about Girls on the Run and your role there in, in, in mentoring youth. Girls on the Run, came to a barrier run crew run turned out that the lady that runs it, her daughter and my son went to school together. And I was like, wow. And then hearing about their program and how they're, you know, not just running it's about like helping these young kids, like young girls, like with social things, like how to, you know, a show, love how to respect each other and at such an age where it's so important, you know, that seven, eight, you know that's a tough age. And, you know, I just felt like after hearing them talk about it, there's something I really wanted to do because I was right at my alley and I really love helping people. You know I had really identify with helping people and especially young girls. So I started coaching this past season. I had some girls in the almond in area and I got to to work with them all season helping them develop these social. And also, you know, getting to know them as, you know, girls and, and where they're coming from and getting to help them do their first 5k there's I think I had about 12 girls. So me and two other coaches, and the whole point of this season is to help them develop their skills so they can do this 5k at the end. And every girl is at a different level and so I worked with them for about six weeks or so. And then we did a 5k, a soda, and I had a couple girls with me and you, you know, they're not big fans of really running, but they, they really was so excited about getting that medal. So, you know, I ran alongside of them and the whole way, you know, and we started running probably about, yeah, I don't know, maybe 200 yards or whatever to the end. And they're like, I, I got 'em on a video and they're like, where can I get our medals? And they were so happy. They didn't care about their time. They just were gonna do something that was outside of their comfort zone, which I, you know, that to me that's really important. And being able to run them in and seeing how excited they were. I really enjoyed that and I just, you know, they were so thankful and it was such a great experience and I can't wait to do it again next season. coming. Ingrid going on three years of consecutive workouts. Okay. I think our audience would like to know what are you doing in regards to recovery? Cause a lot of people you know, so if you can speak to that and what's helped you stay relatively injury free. Yes, we have. We can be sore. But you've been pretty remarkably healthy through the streak. So what are you doing in regards to rest? What are you doing pre-run post run? How are you mixing up your, your weekday routine in regards to cuz it's not all running, you're doing strength training crosstraining you recently purchased a bike. So just talk a little bit about your routine and how it is helping maintain your longevity and overall a resilience. I think the key thing people have to do is sleep. You really need to get good sleep. And especially if you're gonna be doing marathons and whatnot, sleep is key. I think some of the other things, obviously we you've probably we've talked about is foam rolling. You know I have the, you know, the gun, the massage gun. I have compression boots. But the, oh, and I was, I fought this for a while. The ice bath coach could tell you, Yes!

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ice bath! So I fought it and I fought it and you, because I can be stubborn, you know what, that's key and it makes get up. So. Big thing is sometimes I'll do if I'm gonna be running along. So I'll do heat before I run and cold. After I find that really helps putting your legs up against the wall, like lying down and putting your legs up the. That's something. Somebody mentioned to me like a few months ago, forgot to tell coach about that. It that's really helpful, you know, and some mobility, like I have you know, my phone roller, but I also have a little pad here while I sit here and I'll try to stretch. I'll try to get up when I'm working from. Sometimes I work from home and, or at the office and, and stretch and not sit too long, especially if you are an athlete that has a job where you sit down, it's important to get up program your garment to make you move. You, it irritates you. I think also you know, taking walks, I try to take a lot of walks. Walking is so good for you. That's really important. But yeah, the, the baths are really good. The, the, the salt, I think, to buy some stock and salt, cause I probably buy a lot of that. I mean, you can, I. My bathroom is just so full of That's really important. And you know, actually, honestly I do a lot of massages too. I worked at a situation where I can use some money that I put aside at work and I'm outta my paycheck. And I, I use that to get massages and I always try to get a massage before I drew erase. It's something that I find it really helps, or if I'm really feeling sore. that's a really good one. Stretching is really important, you know you do the, the more, the dynamic stretches before, and then the, the more sitting still stretches after you run. But like I said, I think sleep has been the biggest thing for me. I make sure actually my phone turns off at nine, 9:00 PM. You mean on the summer? That's like, some of my friends are like, grandma's time for bed. You know what though? It's it's the priority. If you're gonna you know, put this, all this you know, all this activity on your body, you really need to shut it down and get good sleep. So I'm trying to, right now, I'm about a seven hour average. I, I know I'm gonna be just doing Santa Rosa. I'll try to raise that as I get closer. Cause I find that really helps. Love it. Love it. Love it. And great. Thank you so, so much for joining us on the podcast. It's been a true pleasure having you on I'm sure. We'll probably have you on again. I mean, we'll just want to catch you up, check in with how your journey's going. It's really been an amazing story and you're such a, a, pivotal and vital part of this community. So thank you again so much for, for joining. for having me. Yeah, there'll be definitely some more things to talk about. I just signed up for NASA to get my certification for coaching. So we'll be, that'll be something new. We can talk about that again Awesome. Awesome. Awesome. Yeah, we'll, we'll have coach Ingrid on and, and I'm sure there's so many of our audience that would love to get coached by, you know, just such a an amazing person like you. So thank you so much. Where can our audience find you? Where can, where can you be found online? I'm on Instagram and, and Facebook, you know, I post a lot of my different things. I'm on Strava. You know, I, I keep it real, so yeah, feel free to follow me on there. So it's like Calliehippie75 on Instagram, and then under my name on, on Facebook. And I'm, you know, I'm, I'm happy to everybody has any questions or they, they you know, want some advice. I'm, I'm always happy to, to give something, you know, because Pleasure's been all ours. And thank you so much for having me today. It's been such a pleasure. Well, I hope you enjoyed this episode of the RaceMob podcast. Check out all of the show notes or find a running buddy online at RaceMob dot com. Please subscribe to us on apple, Spotify, Stitcher, or wherever you listen to your podcast and leave us a review until next time. Keep on moving.